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Is shunning an expression of love or just a place for the shunner to hide?
by cha ching in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
to three people in my family, disfellowshipping / shunning is just a tool the wtbs uses to hide what really happened.... they don't want people to 'see behind the curtain.'.

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cha ching

steve: Turning away and blocking one's ears ensures the survival of ignorance. Religious and political beliefs thrive on fear and...ignorance. Look at North Korea.

My experience today reminded me of this.... I was at a store, with my DF'd husband, and saw a family we knew. He wanted to say 'hi', and altho I am a friendly person, 'never going to give in to the dark side' & be like the WT, I couldn't bring myself to go up to them and say hi.

Because the WT uses this shunning tactic to hide the truth, and punish the innocent to protect their ass-ets, I knew that if they 'shunned me,' turned their back to me, I would have gotten very mad, and let them have it.

I would have told the whole story behind the attack on our family.... down to the detail!

I decided to walk on by.
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Is shunning an expression of love or just a place for the shunner to hide?
by cha ching in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
to three people in my family, disfellowshipping / shunning is just a tool the wtbs uses to hide what really happened.... they don't want people to 'see behind the curtain.'.

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cha ching

Writerpen… sooo sorry, it’s true, people who have something to hide embrace the idea of avoiding responsibility.

Jamiebowers: exactly… a tactic … Read the deposition of Richard Ash & the declaration of Garret Losch:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/287469/1/Deposition-of-Richard-Ashe

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/current/287220/1/Gerrit-Loschs-I-DO-NOT-ANSWER-TO-WATCHTOWER (Scroll down to Blondie’s reply, she made the declaration large enough to read)

WT lawyers are verrrry good at hiding truth.

cultBgone… Absolutely!
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"You have to find out her fears and exploit that. What is her worst fear?"
by cognac in
1. jw
2. friends
literally, a text message to my husband from one of his "friends".

he also wrote, "it's in her hands.

it's her move now.
cha ching

Our best wishes to you & your fam, Cognac... you too flipper (nice of you to be there for people)

Definitely save that email / text from that idiot.

LOVE, not WT, conquers all.
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Is shunning an expression of love or just a place for the shunner to hide?
by cha ching in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
to three people in my family, disfellowshipping / shunning is just a tool the wtbs uses to hide what really happened.... they don't want people to 'see behind the curtain.'.

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cha ching

justmenow.... I agree... I view 'DF'ing' as blackmail.

We once spoke to an old friend who was DF'd, and he was nervous at first, but then, as we explained our comfortableness with this, he was also comfie, and we hope to keep our relationship going.

sowhatnow.... I don't know, my sis (an 'uber-doober') would say "don't even eat with such a one".... she is sooo messed up.
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Is shunning an expression of love or just a place for the shunner to hide?
by cha ching in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
to three people in my family, disfellowshipping / shunning is just a tool the wtbs uses to hide what really happened.... they don't want people to 'see behind the curtain.'.

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cha ching

Thank you both, flipper & AEW....

In the weeks leading up to the DFing, even tho the new 'silver sword'had been received, the 'bro' used the reference bible, so he could give the the 'mentally diseased' 'hate speech talk.'

One in my family views it this way: "The people at the hall think they show "love by shunning." His response is, "Love by education."

Two days ago, he had a 35 minute conversation with a witness, the first 5 were akward, "Did you know I was DF'd?" but, the 30 minutes after left both with their dignity. Each expressed love for each other, and the active witness is determined to find out all the facts about child abuse issues.

This family member is hopeful that there are several active witnesses on the verge of a "crisis of conscience" and will be joining in the stand against the WT.

The other DF'd family members have not had any positive experiences thus far.

I am not DF'd, but have been treated very 'differently.'
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Is shunning an expression of love or just a place for the shunner to hide?
by cha ching in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
to three people in my family, disfellowshipping / shunning is just a tool the wtbs uses to hide what really happened.... they don't want people to 'see behind the curtain.'.

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cha ching

To three people in my family, disfellowshipping / shunning is just a tool the WTBS uses to hide what really happened...

They don't want people to 'see behind the curtain.'
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My family has known I'm an apostate
by cognac in
1. jw
2. friends
i found out that my husband has not only gone to the elders, but has been going to members of my family about me over a period of a few years.

this piece of news is just so depressing.

i've been wondering how my family knew i didn't go and thats why so many of them have becoming more and more distant.
cha ching

This is so maddening, I feel for you.

I want to be sarcastic, and make comments like: "Oh, I feel so loved by God, and this convinces me it is the truth!" and "I think I'll start going back to meetings right now!" with a followup of: "I wonder what blackmail is?"

The people left in are getting more and more "obedient".. How is this any different than Hitler & the Nazis?

Make sure that you make friends with other people outside of this terribly mean organization.
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Zone Visit feedback, from ones still in??
by Crazyguy in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
just wondering if any one has heard from ones still asleep, what their feedback has been and what comments have been made by the rank and file??.

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cha ching

O.... M.... G....

I am sooooooooooooooooo glad I am OUT!!!
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Night and Day from GB to Writing committee? Someone explain?
by thedepressedsoul in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
im sure by now most of you are familiar with anthony morris talk from this weekend.

im even seeing memes posted all over instagram from jw mocking it.. here is my question, why are the things written so different from how the gb members, like anthony morris are?

i know the gb dont actually write the stuff but i was under the impression that they come up with the spiritual light pass if off to the writing committee and they put it in the publications.
cha ching

Talk about "tight pants".... or explain why "the end did not come in the twentieth century" ?
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Will the Watchtower Society ever come clean to its members?
by sparky1 in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2829968/mormon-church-finally-admits-founder-40-.

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cha ching

Spot on, Punk!